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NOTICE: Please Keep Gaiscioch Family Friendly

By:

Foghladha
Ceannard na Arach
GW2: Foghladha.2506 ESO: @Foley

Posted On: 09/27/2011 at 10:26 PM

Hey Everyone,
I've had a whole slew of people come to me and ask for us to tighten the ropes on "Guild Chat" and vent banter. I want to take a moment to remind everyone, both Guardian Side, and Defiant that Gaiscioch Vent & Guild Chat should be Family Friendly at all times

I have created channels in vent where you can let your inner vulgar go but I ask that you keep it limited to those channels only. I know it's hard sometimes but it is VERY important that we keep our home safe for parents to play with their teens, kids, or siblings.

Graphic, Innuendo, or even illusive chat should be refrained from. I've had quite a few parents come to me and voice concerns over the past week and I want to make sure our stance on this is clear.

The Gaiscioch FAMILY has always been "Family Friendly", Please keep it that way.

Thank you.

Foghladha

» Edited on: 2012-08-23 14:57:27

"It's not the loot and accolades you walk away with,
it’s the memories and friendships that you cherish forever."
                                                          - Foghladha


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By:

Lumenbarba
Saighdear

Replied On: 09/28/2011 at 08:33 AM

Also please realise that there are people from all over the world. The problem I have had in the past with the "refrain before 9PM" is that there are some who just constantly turn it on. There is no call for guild chat to completely degenerate after 9. I appreciate that it doesn't bother everyone, and I don't mind the occasional comment, but I've added more than one person to ignore because I really couldn't stand to read any more of their commentary. Try not to keep guild chat in the gutter just because one person makes a funny remark.

Also remember there are likely all sorts of races, professions, political persuasions, lifestyles and religions amongst guild members that aren't readily apparent. Don't throw random abuse at groups of people, and try to avoid humour that uses groups of people as punchlines or insultd (often passionate) beliefs. At best you are upsetting people, at worst you can end up very quickly with a most unpleasant conversation going on.

By:

Sea
Laoch na Faolchu
GW2: Pam MacDonald.3481 ESO: @Sea224

Replied On: 09/28/2011 at 08:41 AM

I have to admit that the refrain before 9 pm could be different times for all. If we just remember to keep things to the four letter word .. LOVE HELP CARE JUST KIND we would all be better off.

And I have been know as Mrs. Brady in other guilds when I have accidently said shit or something simliar my guildmates have been shocked.. I have grouped with 8 year olds before gaming and being a grandmother and mother .. there is not a real need to get off color in game there is enough of that in real life.

And yes please be aware others persuasion might not be the same as ours .. this is a game and real life junk doesnt really belong... I know there is a place in vent for those that feel the need for Adult conversation and that is where it should stay.

Thanks Fog for again being the leader that you are :)


By:

Foghladha
Ceannard na Arach
GW2: Foghladha.2506 ESO: @Foley

Replied On: 09/28/2011 at 08:52 AM

That is 9PM Server Time, I set it this way because Americans historically are the most context sensitive people I've run across. No offense but we are. By 9PM Pacific most of the Kids should be in bed and it essentially becomes adult swim. Does this mean you should fly off the handle and spew all sorts of ugliness out over guild chat. No. This just means you can stop pretending your standing in the middle of a kindergarten class and go out for a pint with a few friends. I want ask that you still keep it respectful and mature. Try to keep it clean and representative of the Gaiscioch way.

On a side note, please realize that some phrases people use in different parts of the world are not ment to be derogatory. If a british guy says I'm going to go smoke a fag, trust me hes not talking about a homosexual. We've had a lot of East coast terms offend west coasters, and southern slang offend northerers, etc. The language is different in different places and I assure you nobody is deliberately trying to offend. Be aware our family reaches to all ends of the earth and we will find some rather strange verbiage occasionally. Try not to get offended until you know what they mean. If then you feel offended come talk to me or a draio. Blowing up in chat doesn't help anyone.

As I said before, people don't listen once you punch them in the face. As soon as you attack, the conversation is over. Regardless of what you have to say it will not be heard. Approach it with patience and calm and you might find a resolution. Be the person you want others to be, and just like the way we recruit, if they like what they see they will join you.

» Edited on: 2011-09-28 08:58:09

"It's not the loot and accolades you walk away with,
it’s the memories and friendships that you cherish forever."
                                                          - Foghladha


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By:

Briseadh
Draoi na Cu
GW2: Briseadh.7386 ESO: @Briseadh

Replied On: 09/28/2011 at 09:24 AM

I would like to add to Fog's note above. If you are uncertain about what someone said and have issues with it, the first thing to do is very politely ask that person in a tell privately what they meant. If on vent, either try to get it from the context of how others react or again very politely simply ask what they really meant. I've learned a lot of lingo this way.

And personally, even if I might chuckle at some of the silly innuendo that happens or add a comment that hopefully isn't too off, I rather go for rated G. There really is no need for it. I used to be pretty crude myself and could make guys who thought they had the lime light on dirty jokes blush and shut up. I really didn't like myself then and find rated G is just fine in a life that rides like a rollercoaster without the help of adding any type of vulgarity.

Here's another thing I've noticed with the family. We are a huge family. There will usually be someone to help, but don't get all wigged out if you feel ignored. For one, maybe people are afk, alt-tabbed out of the game to check some info to help with the game, or so busy in a fight they can't answer right away. I wanted to answer someone the other day when on as Briseadh, but was questing in a spot where I had to keep slamming my hot keys to live I was not able to type in chat. Next thing I know, a few minutes later, the person is back on an alt swearing and carring on like a lunatic because they think we are selfish and unhelpful. I actually deleted what I was going to say in wanting to help because they flew off the handle so fast. I still have my filter on so if I see **** in every line you type, I'm going to be upset with you having to resort to such stuff. I'll change my tune and not help. For the most part I think this person wound up truly ignored that time when before they probably did not get ignored, just missed in chat spam ofr any of the other reasons people could miss chat. Such things do not help the family.

We need to properly learn to respect others, refrain ourselves when we know it can offend someone even if that is not the intention, and learn to have a HUGE amount of patience. Dealing with people takes respect and patience. Not all agree or will understand where we are coming from, but I love differences. Differences makes us stronger if we know where they fit in the puzzle that makes us a family and a team.

Okay, I never seem to say anything in short order, but this has been bothering me all week, too, and even if none of it was directly at me on a one on one individual deal, it hurt the family so my mama bear instinct came out. =) The guilds I was an officer and then leader of for a while in Warhammer joked about this. I love this family and as I've said several times now, I'm glad I was able to reunite with them here in Rift. Messing with this family is like messing with a cub when mama bear is obviously watching you. ;)

Go for 'G' rated. I dare you! =D Your words carry far more weight and power than you will ever know. Never expect people to take them the same way either.

Don't mess with the Mama Bear or her cubs (aka this family). =D

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By:

Aeos
Laoch na Iompróidh

Replied On: 09/28/2011 at 02:51 PM

/read, acknowledged, understood...

=D


"lean do chroi"

By:

Donaliam
Draoi na Aracos
GW2: Donaliam.8325 ESO: @Donaliam

Replied On: 09/30/2011 at 12:21 PM

post now stickied

By:

Gaelan
Saighdear

Replied On: 10/04/2011 at 04:08 PM

Read and support. I believe a lot of conversations/rages should be carried on in private tell as opposed to open chat. I have yet to put a guildie on ignore and would certainly refrain from doing so, permanently. I also sadly admit that when raging starts my ignore button get's active. I heartily support family and believe in mentoring our youth at all times, especially in game play by example. Life and gaming should be fun not a 'slap in the face' and personal ego's are so fragile. I believe in patience and heartily support the reviews above.

By:

Hex
Laoch na Fhiaigh
GW2: Hex.6489

Replied On: 10/05/2011 at 06:25 PM

I swear. I make no apology for it. That is why Fog made me a vent channel. I don't do it in guildchat, but I do it in vent when raiding 10s or in small groups. That will not ever change. In my country, swearing is normal other than the 'c' word. I want the freedom to relax with my friends and not be subject to the intolerances of other ppl!
/agree on the guild and raidchat though :)

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By:

Berga
Caomhnoir na Iompróidh

Replied On: 10/25/2011 at 07:33 AM

/read and understood, a question though:

What about server wide chat like zone and level chat? I'd like to get a ruling for these, too. Seen some guild member getting wound up by trolls and then starting to throw insults and I don't like it.
(Do we have a set of guidelines what is appropriate behavior in public and what is not?)

new macro:
g A friendly reminder: Vent & Guild Chat should be Family Friendly until after 9PM Pacific. Please refrain from graphic, innuendo, or even allusive chat.


» Edited on: 2011-10-25 08:01:27

» Edited on: 2011-10-25 13:35:34

By:

Foghladha
Ceannard na Arach
GW2: Foghladha.2506 ESO: @Foley

Replied On: 10/25/2011 at 09:26 AM

Berga, That falls under the whole "What you do effects all of us" that is outlined in our credo. If Gaiscioch act out in public channel send them a PM and ask nicely to tone it down a bit. One person, effects all of us when it comes to PR. What you say and do is what we say and do. As long as people keep in mind that "I don't care what they think about me", really means "I don't care what they think about the Gaiscioch", We'll be good. Your not alone when your with us. You're with us. Therefor you are a representative of the "Gaiscioch Way".

"It's not the loot and accolades you walk away with,
it’s the memories and friendships that you cherish forever."
                                                          - Foghladha


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By:

ReapestLife
Lorgair
GW2: Reapest.8901

Replied On: 10/25/2011 at 10:40 AM

Understood. Thanks for having an envirmonet like this.

By:

Averian
Gaisgeach na Cu
GW2: othahjr.9768

Replied On: 10/25/2011 at 03:06 PM

Read, Acknowledged, Understood, Support.

By:

Androssis
Lorgair

Replied On: 10/25/2011 at 03:31 PM

Read, acknowledged, and understood!

By:

DufRaven
Laoch na Fhiaigh
GW2: Altone Argith.5129

Replied On: 03/27/2012 at 09:43 AM

I am a jokster and try to keep it clean though. In vent I'll admit in frusttation have slipped but always apologized. I try to police others when the topic becomes one of the general frowned upon subjects in vent or in chat. I am under the assumption that a groups channel in a vent chat channel is based on what the raid leader specied. I will agree though some chat does not belong after 9 either in open chat channels ie religion, politics, graphic sex or hate or insensitive talk.

By:

Thaelinara
Saighdear na Faolchu

Replied On: 04/13/2012 at 03:31 PM

bump for all our new folks

By:

Ezsme
Muinntir
ESO: @Ezsme

Replied On: 02/21/2014 at 06:05 AM

I have to admit, the thing that made me want to join the Gaiscioch family the most was while watching the ESO PvP video y'all posted, I heard the raid leader say, "Watch your language."

I was tired of "adult" guild meaning "cuss like a sailor (no offense to sailors) and brag about your drinking and illicit drug usage."

My kids love to watch me play and listen to the chatter and even chime in once in a while--plus my headphones hurt my head--and I was never able to let them participate in that way.  Now I can.

Huzzah!

By:

TheChadillac
Freiceadan
GW2: TheChadillac.8269 ESO: @thechad217

Replied On: 02/21/2014 at 06:48 AM

Yes I too saw this video and it made me want to look into joining.  Love the values represented in this family.

         ~//~ We are the music makers.  We are the dreamers of dreams ~//~

By:

Sekkerhund
Seaimpin na Cu
GW2: Sekkerhund.3790 ESO: @Sekkerhund

Replied On: 02/21/2014 at 07:46 AM

Actually, here's the impressive part:  Pookha is the leader of Harbingers of Light, a Tuatha guild.  We all respect the Gaiscioch Family's "family friendly" values, even the alliance guilds.

That said, GSCH does offer "adult sanctuaries" via designated channels in Raidcall (will be displayed as 18+).  In-game chat and general voice channels are all designated as family-friendly zones.

(disclaimer: I do not know if HoL is going to be active in TESO, or if Pookha will do like I did and officially join GSCH as a full-time member.  I have not seen HoL listed as a TESO Tuatha, so I assume the latter.)

By:

Raighan
Seaimpin na Sailetheach
GW2: Raighan.9804 ESO: @Raighan

Replied On: 02/21/2014 at 08:11 AM

Being British I am pretty thick skinned and not easily offended by 'adult' language and themes, but I really just find it very refreshing that we don't have it going on it guild and voice chat in Gaiscioch. 

What I liked in the video when Pookha mentioned the language was that he just said it quickly and carried right on with no attitude at all. I really hate it when I see/hear people correct others in a pompous manner, in fact that bothers me more than the language slip up in the first place.

 

 

 

 

By:

Morigana
Draoi
GW2: imagetaker.6807 ESO: @Morigana99

Replied On: 02/21/2014 at 01:59 PM

Whew - your powers of necromancy are strong Ezsme and very timely :)  (I know it is a sticky post - but there was almost two years between replies) 

We all need to be reminded that this is the true core of Gaiscioch - we are a family and as such have all ages within our ranks and need to remain always Family Friendly.  This doesn't just include language but conversations that are "adult" in nature.   It is tough for some as they are still too young to even have children - but once you do, you will realize if you don't want your child hearing it - then it isn't appropriate.  Everyone slips occasionally we just need to realize it and keep it nice.

 



» Edited on: 2014-02-21 14:01:35

"I walk in dreams and speak with ancient spirits for guidance. I see the good and the evil in men as well as the storm of turmoil that the universe creates.  This is my fate but what I choose to do with this knowledge is up to me. That is my destiny. Don't let my ghosts haunt you..." Morigana Ghoststorm

By:

Foghladha
Ceannard na Arach
GW2: Foghladha.2506 ESO: @Foley

Replied On: 02/21/2014 at 02:10 PM

The amazing part of that video is that those who we don't want with us are repulsed by the idea of us, those who we want with us are amazed by that video. There's such a divide in responses and the part I love is that all the right people are requesting to join and all the problem childs are not. 

I never though Respect would be so hard to find in gaming but that is truly a rare thing to find. Ask Don or Jessica, In real life I swear like a mad man, but when I step into game i put on my kid gloves because I can't stand the thought of me being the reason some kid learns a new word. As a father who's daughter learned the SH word first, I know just the horror of your child repeating that word over and over and over again anywhere you go. I'm not going to do that to someone else. Out of respect for them and the children that play with us I mind my language.

"It's not the loot and accolades you walk away with,
it’s the memories and friendships that you cherish forever."
                                                          - Foghladha


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By:

Lee
Treubh
ESO: @DarrLee

Replied On: 02/21/2014 at 04:55 PM

Been a Sailor 24 years and i agree no one can cuss like us.  I try very hard to keep my private life separate from public but if I slip up hope to be forgiven.

By:

JaeOnasi
Seaimpin
GW2: Jae Onasi.1408 ESO: @JaeOnasi

Replied On: 02/22/2014 at 02:03 PM

I'm in the medical field so believe me, I've heard it ALL and then some. I've probably said most of it, too. I like having a generally cuss-free zone, because it keeps me from slipping back into the raunchy language I used to use in school. If I hear it too often, I start falling back into my old habits, and I'm afraid of using the language unintentionally in front of patients! Thanks for keeping it clean.

By:

Scorpeda
Muinntir
ESO: @scorpeda

Replied On: 02/26/2014 at 10:13 AM

I'm a new member. I am pleased with the policy re language. It takes the membership to another level. Cursing is appropriate in a lot of situations, it depends on the culture of the group or situation. This demonstrates the culture of Gaiscioch.

 

By:

Tenaj
Lorgair
ESO: @Grunim

Replied On: 02/26/2014 at 01:17 PM

I just want to pipe up that a huge reason that I decided to join was because of the ESO PvP video.  I knew so little about Gaiscioch before, but when I watched and listened to the video I felt like my search had ended.   Not only were people asked to watch their language, but I even heard a woman speak up which meant Gaiscioch would be welcoming for ladies.  It was exactly the homey atmosphere I've been looking for in PvP that's so difficult to find.  

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