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Name Change Yesterday (Mature)

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Rufus
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Posted On: 05/11/2015 at 10:07 AM
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I was doing a community event yesterday (Map Clear), and in the middle of it I was all of a sudden not a member of the Guild anymore.  Apparently someone had been trying to whisper with me, but I was paying attention and didn't see the whispers for some reason.  The issue was that my character name was deemed not suitable.  (Dafuq Soulbrother)  Now I understand that this is a play on words and everything, but I didn't think it was a big deal.  I was told that we had some kids (8-9) running with us and I was asked to change my name.  I did so because I don't want to make anybody upset or anything.  I like that this family has let me in and I love playing with everyone, even if I don't get on TS ever.  I did have to spend 800 gems to change my name.  I just wanted everyone to know that this game is Rated T for teen, and sometimes maybe kids that young might see some stuff in game that they might not be ready for, but I think that the parents should know that upfront.  If we are going to let kids that young play this T rated game, they should be told in advance that they might see certain things.  If I'm totally out of line then that's fine and I will shut my face about it, but I just wanted to express my thoughts.  Thank you.

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Aoibhe
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Replied On: 05/11/2015 at 11:15 AM PDT
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Rufus,

The game itself may be rated for teens, but our Guild is rated for families and our standards are higher. Please re-read about joining Gaiscioch here: http://www.gaiscioch.com/about/the_family.html.

That said, thank you for making changes that were requested of you.

Aoibheann

Like all great travellers, I have seen more than I remember, and remember more than I have seen.
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Seaimpin de na Aracos
Rufus
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Replied On: 05/11/2015 at 11:46 AM PDT
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Fair enough.  Thank you for your time.  Also I'm a little on edge about other (personal) stuff right now so I apologize.



» Edited on: 2015-05-11 11:52:18

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Foghladha
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Replied On: 05/11/2015 at 12:16 PM PDT
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Hey Rufus,

Thank you for taking that step to change your name. We play Elder Scrolls Online which is a Mature game and we as Gaiscioch opt to take the higher road. The perception of Gaiscioch is one of Honor, Integrity, Fellowship and Respect. This is what we hold dear. We can't keep that perception with people running around with names that are offensive or counter productive to our cause. Remember. Gaiscioch is not a Guild. It is a community. There are thousands involved and we have to be careful to maintain a healthy reputation as we are closely involved in Charity work, and with the gaming industry itself. We must choose the moral high road. Just because others don't hold themselves on the same bar doesn't mean we shouldn't. We are trying to be the light shining in this dark dark world. This is so much more than just a Guild in a game. We affect peoples lives and I want to make sure we keep that in our mind when holding a Gaisicoch tag above your head. The legend of the Gaiscioch speaks of unquestionable character and honor. They refused to fight the Fir Bolg because they fight wouldn't be fair to the Fir Bolg. They trained them, gave them weapons and only when they felt the fight would be fair did they engage in battle. Thats the Moral high ground we seek. Put the best foot forward even for your enemy and help those around you even if they don't ask. It's really hard to keep that public image with a name like "Camel Puncher" or "Wafflefartsparkle" (yeah i went there.. you know who i'm talkin about :P).

When people thing of Gaiscioch I want the first thing that pops into their head is Kindness. I want people to see us as Graceful, Elegant, Caring and Kind. We are the Benevolence in a world corrupted by greed and hate. This is who we are and who we will always be. It's up to each member to decide if that the path they wish to follow. This is why I ask every single member that joins to read our site and decide if it's the right fit for them. If a player isn't willing to make that commitment then I help them find a place where they can be happy. This is not the Guild for all, it's the family for many. By making that name change Rufus, you've proven that you have what it takes to be Gaiscioch. The first step is always the hardest so thank you for taking it. Thats huge.

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Rufus
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Replied On: 05/11/2015 at 12:25 PM PDT
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Thank you Fog.  I appreciate you taking the time to respond with such class as usual, and just from that alone I know that I am in the right place.  Just as a side note, "Wafflefartsparkle" is a stage name I used to dance under. J/K :)

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Morigana
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Replied On: 05/11/2015 at 02:00 PM PDT

Waffle?   That's you - It's Pancakes here - I danced with you once!  ;)

It is actually the easiest thing to do - taking the high road - at least for me.  I just think "Would you want your 9 year old granddaughter seeing this?  Would I want to explain it to her and would I be even slightly embarrassed by doing so?"  Also I'm a bit of a prude.   It is all about perception and while some people may not be offended and might even find it cute or clever - if it offends one family member then we have to rethink our perception of it. 

I wish to thank you as well  for doing what you did - and in mentioning it here.  It is a lesson for all of us in how to respond to such things.  I remember once when a family member was spouting off rhetoric about some offensive things in guild chat and several members telling him to "please stop" and even elders chiming in telling him to "knock off with the offensive comments" and he made one final comment "I guess I don't belong in this guild - I'm not going to let anyone tell me how to act or what I can and can't say" - and he quit the guild.   Well - he was about to get kicked anyway.

The point is what Fog has stated so well - we are a family guild - we love our members and they should love us and want to be with us.  That is what keeps us who we are. 

"This is not the Guild for all, it's the family for many. By making that name change Rufus, you've proven that you have what it takes to be Gaiscioch."  -Fog

We Are Gaiscioch!  It isn't just a guild, it is a family - and a way of life.  Safe Journey and be well!



» Edited on: 2015-05-11 14:01:23

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Sekkerhund
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Replied On: 05/11/2015 at 02:25 PM PDT
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Hm.

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Eiahn
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Replied On: 05/11/2015 at 02:27 PM PDT
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Thanks for sharing what happened to you and thanks for taking on the steps to make the change! Must have been frustrating at first, but I can see that you could see right away the bigger picture.

It's awesome to have you with us! I hope you know and remember that!

Thanks again

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Sekkerhund
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Replied On: 05/14/2015 at 02:21 AM PDT
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I've always mentally vocalized that name as "Dah-fyook" and I'm ex-Navy with a RL vocab that would blister the ears on most of you. 

I certainly don't think this "incident" was handled as well as it could have been, it most certainly wasn't something that needed immediate action due to lack of noticing /tells during an event. 

Whoever ex-communicated them from the guild, should have first thought about the busy chat logs and left the matter for a later time... especially understanding that you were going to be asking the member to spend ~$10 of RL cash (don't bring up the gold>gem conversion, its moot) to stay in the guild.

I give credit to Rufus for handling this in a mature manner.  I can't say that I would have done the same.  >:\

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kiba
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Replied On: 05/29/2015 at 01:53 PM PDT
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I kinda see how you feel, though your name was slightly innapropriate... I was asked to change my name because I had an í as opposed to a regular i, this was back before you could change your name and I had to create a new character, but was told later on I didn't really need to do that because you can use the gamertag (kiba.6203) instead of the name, oh well... water off a ducks back as I see it.

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Foghladha
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Replied On: 05/29/2015 at 01:57 PM PDT
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Kiba, the problem is with special characters  they haven't fixed the mail system and right click invite system to recognize characters with the special characters. It returns no such user. Even trying to get you on a friends list is difficult. If we don't know your arenanet  I'd it's almost impossible to communicate  with you.

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Replied On: 05/29/2015 at 02:10 PM PDT
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zomg I didnt know that, so that's why it was so hard to get into a group. thanks though, that's the first time someone actually explained that to me.

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Nona
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Replied On: 06/02/2015 at 09:36 PM PDT
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OMG it's Waffle and Pancakes I never thought I would see you all ever again, its me Crepes.  We sure had fun dancing :)

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