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AvA what do we get?

Seaimpin de na Capall Donn
Jace
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Posted On: 05/05/2014 at 02:14 PM

So at the end of all of this fighting and keep taking.. what do we get if we come first? Bragging rights? I was very jaded by the fact that I see these massive anchors coming down from the sky and then me, my wife, and ten other guys take them down just to get nothing. I'm starting to think that it will be more of the same with the AvA stuff. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Taoiseach de na Arach Glas
Foghladha
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Replied On: 05/05/2014 at 02:41 PM PDT
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You can buy purple gear with your alliance points. Maybe even gold someday. You also unlock ava abilities which can be used outside ava ad well. Haven't had a campaign end yet so don't really know what those rewards look like.

"It's not the loot and accolades you walk away with, it's the memories and friendships that you cherish forever." - Foghladha
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Saighdiuir de na Sailetheach
Slevin
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Replied On: 05/05/2014 at 02:41 PM PDT

With the anchors, DO NOT activate the stone thingies as soon as they are charged/available. Use them to replenish your stamina/health/magicka when low, but let the mobs keep coming. Seems to be stronger mobs and greater loot that way. Milk those anchors for all they've got!

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Replied On: 05/05/2014 at 05:27 PM PDT

As of right now I have no clue what the point of AvA is I've done a decent amount of it to feel the same as you. The gear you can buy as far as I know is only VR1 and 6 AP exclusive gear? So the gear is kind of useless if you hit VR10.

 

I guess other than being pretty unrewarding as far as physical rewards go I don't exactly feel like I accomplished all that much when I take out a group of 20s as a V6. If there was some sort of SPvP like in GW2 I think it would actually hold my interest rather than zerging around.

 

I have 6 days on my subscription it seems when I checked today and I am debating on if I want to renew it. I am v6 and don't get me wrong I actually enjoy grindy games which the veteran level essentially are but just like AvA the PvE system isn't very rewarding either to hit v10. At v10 you are the same as a v1 other than you can now wear some better gear that was level restricted but other than that you don't gain a single thing like stats or get stronger in any other way. Other than that since there's soft caps in place theres little room for you to be original at v10 my stats will likely be exactly the same as any other fire aoe dk out there.

 

 

 

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Caomhnoir de na Iomproidh Buí
Tide
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Replied On: 05/05/2014 at 07:50 PM PDT

Sharing what I know and feel about cyrodiil.

 

You'll be able to get vr 1, vr6 and vr10 gears and weapons using alliance points from the vendors - you should be able to see those once u hit vr1.

 

Each scroll under our control gives a faction wide buff.

 

Want the thrill of possibly running into potential threats that is not stagnant in what they do? Quest in cyrodiil.

 

Claiming a keep opens up the guild store of whichever guild you have claimed it with.

 

As fog has said, we dont know yet what the final reward will be, but considering it takes so long for one campaigne to run it's course, i'm personally noy expecting a small reward. Every resource we gain, is every resource the bananas and smurfs loose.

 

Last but not least, to have fun. Small group of ppl taking out vr10, seiging for an hour and finally taking over the keep, smoothly taking over a resource with no one dying? All these are small victories, but end of the day, it might bring smile to your face when u think back and that is all that matters because we play this game to have fun aye? 

 

:)

 



» Edited on: 2014-05-05 19:52:05

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Laoch de na Ulchabhan Buí
Sekkerhund
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Replied On: 05/05/2014 at 10:31 PM PDT
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Its really intended as an alternative PVP option to end-game.  Sure you can "join in" at any level, but its just another source of end-game content.  If you're one of those players that "needs a reward" for your time spent, then you will probably be disappointed.

Its a game.  Games are designed to have fun, not get stuff.  You'll enjoy AvA a lot more if you just focus on trying to have fun.

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Ban Seaimpin de na Fhiaigh
Aethena
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Replied On: 05/06/2014 at 12:04 AM PDT

Like Tide and Sekkerhund, I think the biggest thing you can get out of AvA is fun – particularly if you go with a Family group. If you check out the Events calendar, you'll see there's an AvA event just about every day.

I try not to miss Club Gaiscioch on Fridays (it's also on Tuesdays) and Harbingers of Light AvA on Saturdays (which I like to think of as "Breakfast with Pookah", since it happens at 8am on a Sunday morning for me). But really every Family AvA event I've participated in has been heaps of fun and basically spoiled me for any other AvA. :)

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Ridire de na Iomproidh Oráiste
Rainingblood
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Replied On: 05/06/2014 at 05:48 AM PDT
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The vR10 gear is pretty sweet and if you like grinding, they cost 650,000 AP... each. Also as others have said, the family groups are a blast and Pookha makes me lol IRL. :)

Also, the faction buffs are sweet and we need them more often. They can be huge as we are starting to do more family vet dungeons.

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Vree
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Replied On: 05/06/2014 at 06:51 AM PDT
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Taking and owning, Keeps and Scrolls gives bonuses to that alliance. When we first took everything on the map, as I leveled my character he was almost superhuman and received xp bonuses and many other boons. When we lost everything, every fight was tough. So having a presence in AvA allows for bonuses throughout the game, not just in Cyrodil. 

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Pookha
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Replied On: 05/06/2014 at 07:41 AM PDT
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     The real monetary reward from AvA is going to come at the end of the 90 day Campaign. I'm not going to speculate as to the amount of gold each player will be receiving, but to give some perspective... In the PTS Campaigns ran for two days. Not one time did we on the EP side claim first place overall. That said for each Campaign I simply participated in I received a 500 Gold reward at the end of the 2 days. If I played a good amount in the Campaign (around 5 hours over two days) I would receive as much as 2000 Gold (It seemed to be based on personal ranking at the end of the campaign.) Again I want to stress that this is pure speculation, but 90 days is a pretty decent chunk of time. I have a feeling that the players who devoted the majority of their game time to AvA will be the ones getting a pretty large reward. We wont know however until the first round of Campaigns is over.

     Rewards aside I want to address the mentality behind what AvA is about (from a reward standpoint). I believe one of the biggest misconceptions people have about AvA is that "It is a means to Level, get Gold/AP, and get Great Gear in order to make your character better overall" This idea is incorrect and AvA is not set up to reward you in this manner. In my opinion a more correct mentality would be that "You should Level, Get Gold/AP, and Great Gear in order to become better in AvA" in other words you should PvE in order to advance your character and AvA to apply your characters advancement to the ultimate test of player skill. 

     AvA does seem to support the mentality I tend to side with. To support this claim I want to point you again to the rewards. The only (point or credit) rewards you receive in AvA are AP and a tiny bit of EXP/VP. I would also like to add that these rewards are of a extremely low amount when Capturing AvA objectives without any enemy opposition. The reason for this is simply because to purpose of AvA is to test your skill against other people, Not the AI. If you take a keep in AvA while there is no enemy presence you will get about 200Ap. Now take the keep with only a few AD inside defending. you will get anywhere from 500-200 for the cap. Not to mention around 100 every 5 min you are sieging the keep. Then even more points come once you clear the surrounding keep area of all enemy forces (I generally receive 2000 AP for this). Now these numbers to vary greatly depending on the size of the forces and who is the underdog ect... but the point is still that AvA from a design standpoint exist to match people against people and the rewards you receive in AvA are designed to help keep you playing AvA longer and better.

 

So the answer the question of "What do you get as a reward from AvA?" My answer is the AvA experience itself that is really what you walk away with. That same experience is what has drawn so many of us old school RvRers to this game. it's the promise of those epic battles against impossible odds that keep us coming back. It's the ultimante ever-changing endgame content that will hopefully keep drawing us back to push our personal skill and characters to the limit.

Sekkerhund hit the nail on the head in saying "You'll enjoy AvA a lot more if you just focus on trying to have fun." The reward is the experience. The points you accumulate are designed to help you become better at contributing to that experience. 

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Alana
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Replied On: 05/06/2014 at 08:54 AM PDT
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Personally, I love the AvA in ESO. It's great to use our minds towards objectives as a group, even a very large group of over 100. It requires teamwork, taking/following/giving orders. It requires thinking as a unit rather than self. Honestly, I much prefer the gains of being a part of a group that prefers using strategy, than just  gankfesting (yes, I know that is not a real word) on opponents for personal pvp points. Played too many games where this was the ultimate goal of pvp. So for me the rewards are as many explained before me: fun, fellowship and using strategy as a unit. Can't wait for tonight's Club Gaiscioch!

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Pisgah
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Replied On: 05/06/2014 at 03:41 PM PDT
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It's the promise of those epic battles against impossible odds that keep us coming back. — Pookha

I would add that the bonds you make and the trusts you build with people with whom you fight alongside every day go on to become some of the strongest in the human experience.

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Lateralus
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Replied On: 05/06/2014 at 03:48 PM PDT

A hell of a lot of fun , is my answer. Yes, there are all the buffs and rewards, but they are an aside to me. I have not had as much fun ever, in any game, until i hopped into AvA in ESO with the Family.

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Banlaoch de na Fhiaigh Dubh
Kaytlin
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Replied On: 06/17/2014 at 03:27 PM PDT
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I think the fun in AvA is that every single time I step on the battlefield I experience new things.  In PVE you fight a boss mob the same way day in and day out, to me that is boring!  In AvA you fight against living thinking human beings that will do things differently every single  time you encounter them. They adapt, they overcome!  AvA battles are ever changing, and can be very frustrating, especially if you are getting owned!  But, you know what,  that is what makes it interesting, seeing how others adapt and change, then you have to adapt and change to overcome them. 

 

Rewards and  Title's are not the reason I AvA, exciting ever changing battles are the reason I do AvA!

Hope to see you on the battlefield soon!

Caytlynne of Skye



» Edited on: 2014-06-17 15:29:23

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