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I have noticed a lot of “dungeon interest” threads lately

Fine de na Sailetheach
Dobs
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Posted On: 09/07/2010 at 09:50 PM

So, in peaking around the forums here a bit I have noticed numerous threads relating to one dungeon or another. I just wanted to make a few points about this:

First of all, I would be happy to join for any dungeon (granted I am not locked out or busy) anytime anyone needs something. I am a unlock whore and interested in the content. I am well warded and gtg for pretty much anything and don’t really feel like any dungeon is “beneath” me. If your twinks need a little Gunbad or whatnot, I am happy to go.

Secondly, the people I did talk to in Gaiscioch and its sister guilds were nice and open; unfortunately the people that would acknowledge me were few and far between. It was frustrating to be part of such a large “family” and have questions and requests ignored. I understand that people are busy doing their own things and that not all aspects of the game interest everyone; however, for marketing something as a family, it often felt more like a cold shoulder. I know I was frustrated, as a returning player, to have to resort to simply asking in region chat after numerous attempts in /gu and /as for answers to game related questions. And, this is why I left the guild. What is the point in being in a guild or an alliance when you are neither grouping with nor talking to those players? It isn’t that I didn’t get any PvE runs in with anyone (trust me, I get not wanting to do that), just that majority of the time no one would even acknowledge I had even made a statement.

As a solution I would suggest some common sense and decency. If you need a dungeon run, or really help in anything, be (politely) persistent and patient. People are logging on and off all the time, just keep letting people know you would really like to get something off the ground, what your class is and specifically what you are looking to accomplish. There has seemed to be a lot of interest around PvE lately. If someone is asking for help with something, or a question, even if you don’t know the answer, please support them with some acknowledgment. It is ok if the answer is “no”. I would rather hear that than nothing. Just a quick, “I’m sorry I am locked out at the moment”, maybe an “I am really burnt out on PvE, but I think person X was interested.” Or, if you don’t know the answer a “Sorry, I have no idea” would work wonders.

Hope it was ok I posted that! I feel like I am in someone’s house and may have worn out my welcome! Or maybe like everyone thought I left but I was still hiding in the basement . . . you know, all creepy like, eating your food and watching your cable at night.

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Ridire de na Fhiaigh
Reclis
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Replied On: 09/08/2010 at 04:34 AM PDT

Hey Dobs, sorry to hear that, I would have liked to have been around when you felt this way. I know sometimes I see questions pop up in chat that I can't answer and rather than feel like a fool I tend to keep my mouth shut. I also know what its like to ask questions that don't get answered. It seems like when the core members are on, this guild is bliss. I think people like me, and you, need to step up when they're not on and be the problem solver. I joined the guild to be a part of guild events, but also because it's very causal. I know if I want to get a dungeon run in I have to plan it out, and BE PATIENT!!! I know I can't be available all the time and would be ignorant to expect the same. So let's start posting our requests, the Tuatha is a powerful resource that I don't think we as members are properly utilizing. I am starting to get a little more ballzy now and think it's time I start making friends and teammates one in the same. Give me a shout, let's give it a shot.

» Edited on: 2010-09-08 04:45:58 Also the creepy guy in the basement analogy. Friggin hysterical.

» Edited on: 2010-09-08 05:59:45

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Tiarna de na Fhiaigh Dearg
Vampiresbane
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Replied On: 09/08/2010 at 06:35 AM PDT

Do you have the tuatha mod Dobs? I know on the Bastion Stairs night the only reason I knew you wanted to help out was because Craythur had told me over vent. I never got a tell or something written in tuahta from you that I remember. The Tuatha mod allows all of us extended alliance members to talk to anyone in the family. I highly recommend downloading it and make sure you have the updated version since Ben (Daghdre) has updated it for 1.36. Hope that helps and lookin forward to you coming next Monday for Bastion Stairs.

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Craythur
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Replied On: 09/08/2010 at 08:45 AM PDT
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Howdy Dobs I think there is always some interest in PVE dungeons within the tribe. Floating around like low level anxiety perhaps. The trick is always nailing down the right mix of folks at the right time. I think polite persistence is the key there just as you indicated. As for in game communications I tend to blather on in chat. Most folks don't. I too have noticed our Com channels go silent on occasion. There are all sorts of reasons why in game chat might do that. If we're in the middle of a big RVR push (lots of chat window spam) or (ironically) a dungeon boss fight then it's easy to miss chat. Its my impression that the /alliance channel gets used a lot more than the Tuatha channel. I don't really know why that is. Tuatha has the potential to reach more people but requires some effort to in stall in the first place. You've done so of course, but I'm not sure how many of us do. If you're looking for a group feel free to send me a tell. While I may not participate myself (I don't much care for the PVE here) I'd be happy to ping the alliance channel for you. My usual suspects are down in my sig. You know you could always rejoin us. Then you could see alliance chat again. Just saying. :) See you in game!

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Fine de na Sailetheach
Dobs
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Replied On: 09/08/2010 at 11:16 AM PDT

Oh yeah, hands down for people that are frustrated about the game, dl the "tuatha" mod and hop in vent. That is probably the easiest way to get in touch with people and build stuff. It is a smaller population of people that use it, but it is a more "active" population of people that are willing to dl the mod. (It is just an autojoin mod for an in game created chan, nothing scary; I am a computer "special" person and I managed to get it going!)I should have mentioned utilizing those as communication options. That being said, I get busy in sc's or in an instance healing my little runepriest heart out, but it only takes a moment to say, "sorry, was in a sc." I don't mind people not knowing; obviously I don't know either as I asked the question! I think people are just looking for a community when they join a guild and a resource to obtain goals. I think the particular moment that pushed me over the edge is: as a returning player, never having been to LoTD, I had no idea where to get conqueror gear (no more forts). I asked multiple times, over a decent span of time as well, in both /gu and /as and no one would answer me. There had been similar smaller questions that went unanswered. Don (I think) was really the only person that answered me and in a guild as large as I was in, I felt bad that one person was really shouldering all the "newbie" answers (in my case). Obviously that a minor thing in and of itself, but compounded by a multiple minor things, it becomes kind of not worth it. I am not trying to be harsh, I am just trying to show people that having a huge guild and alliance can be an amazing resource. But, if no one sees it that way or utilizes it, what is the point? It just becomes the same things as region chat. No one knows each other and feels no responsibility towards one another. For now, I like where I am as far as guild (I am playing with my husband and a guy that played on the same server in DAoC as us). However, I would like to be thought of as a strong resource to all players! Really, hit me up in game if you need heals!

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Foghladha
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Replied On: 09/08/2010 at 11:51 AM PDT
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You know Dobs you could always have me add that guild your in to the Tuatha then they can all share the fun :).

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Tserash
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Replied On: 09/08/2010 at 12:34 PM PDT

Just a couple of things that I addressed in my other post and to emphasize what others have said as well: 1) Tuatha really is key, alliance chat only covers so many 2) Vent is your friend, many times people are out of game or playing destro on another server until something pops up 3) Spam happens, and much as we would like to reply there's many times if we're in a big push, you just don't see it. Yep it's true. I'd be more than glad to help out when I can. And many times if I can't I'll give an excuse why (sometimes a lame one I admit.) I think too that in the rush to be able to compete we get frustrated when we're not progressing fast enough. Dungeons emphasize that as well. But it will come in time.

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